Incorporating manual therapy

Incorporating manual therapy

Incorporating manual therapy into current interventions: Tips from peers.

In the eleven years that the Foundations in Manual Therapy: Voice and Swallowing Disorders course has been taught, one of the more frequent questions facing new learners is a deeper understanding of how manual therapy (and shared decision-making) is to be incorporated into the treatment routines of SLPs and other professions. Due to these questions, a new video series has been started. I’ve polled clinicians of all types, including SLPs in a range of work settings, on how they’ve incor[prated the work into their daily routines. While all will be presented from a basic framework of questions, I do hope that the range of responses allows you to see how this work can fit in with and enhance your current strategies.


 

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A sample chapter from Manual therapy in voice and swallowing: A person-centered approach

A sample chapter from “Manual therapy in voice and swallowing: A person-centered approach

Writing Manual therapy in voice and swallowing: A person-centered approach has marked a high point in my career. It resulted from decades of experience in the manual therapy tenches, including some difficult life lessons. Documenting many of the underlying problems with typical manual therapy narratives, ones that often go unchallenged, it builds from a wider range of explanatory narratives to craft an approach that depends more on the individual patient’s life experiences rather than the clinician’s often biased views. In reality, it is a blend of the two, but an approach that attempts to never let one stomp on the other. The book is both theoretical and practical, hopefully meeting the needs of many audiences. 

Details on purchasing the book may be found at this page of the website. The book chapter, Building a model, may be accessed here.

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Podcasts and Articles

Podcasts and Articles

Walt Fritz, PT’s Podcasts, Videos, and Articles

Over the past few years I’ve been fortunate enough to participate in a number of podcasts and interviews that are available for listening. They range from voice/swallowing-specific, to more general interviews that speak to various aspects of the manual therapy work that I teach. Strongly represented are principles of the patient-centered model, shared decision-making, a blended multifactorial-explained model, all of which move forward from older tissue-specific models of manual therapy. Also included are published articles I’ve written to better define this work.


Rob Klienberg, PT, invited me to an interview for his website, Rock the Recovery. Our talk centered around my history at a physical therapist and my creation of the Foundations in Manual Therapy: Voice and Swallowing Disorders seminar. You can read the interview here

 

I’ve been a long time admirer of The Thinking Practitioner podcast, and the work of Whitney Lowe and Til Lucau. Til asked me to chime on dealing with chronic cough with a real patient, in this case massage and manual therapy educator Ruth Warner. You can watch the podcast here on YouTube.

I was honored to be asked by Judy Rodman, renown performer and vocal coach, to talk about my work on her podcast, All Things Vocal.

https://youtu.be/jJubFqFQod8
  • Eric Purves, RMT, asked me to appear on his podcast, “Purves Versus”, where we discussed the importance of finding an acceptable balance in our understanding, our communication and how we teach continuing education. Our treatment interventions aren’t always just about one tissue or a special technique, they are more complex than that and the outcomes people experience are more strongly related to the strength of the therapeutic relationship. You can listen to our talk at this link.

  • Brett Kane had me as a guest on his 21st Century Vitalism podcast. Our conversation included:

SHOW TOPICS
Following Evidence Based Practice
The Power of Placebo and Nocebo
How the Therapeutic Relationship Creates Change
Shared Decision Making in a Therapeutic Setting
Is Pain Neurological or Structural?
Touch and Emotions
Why Being an ‘Expert’ Might Not Be Ideal
The Benefits of Not Knowing in a Therapeutic Setting

https://youtu.be/h3ioYDFSQ1Y
  • Discussing Person-Centered Model Approaches of Manual Therapy for SLPs. I had the pleasure to again be interviewed by Wilson Nice, SLP, on her Nice Speech Lady podcast on shared decision-making and how it applies to the SLP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbUwYszMAd4
https://youtu.be/4HBV8B2B_vQ
  • I teach my manual therapy for voice and swallowing disorders seminars in person and online. This includes a hybrid one-on-one version of the Introductory and Advanced classes taught in my Upstate New York office. Thanapat Yartcharoen (Film) is a vocal coach from Thailand who had taken my Introductory Foundations in Manual Therapy: Voice and Swallowing Disorders and Balancing the Body classes on previous visits to the United States. On this visit, he spent two days in my clinic, where we worked through the extensive content of the Advanced class in a one-on-one setting. Film asked to film a post-class interview for his Thai vocal performing clientele and was kind enough to share the video with me.

  • Takeaways from manual therapy: At the recent class in Eugene, Oregon, I sat down with Melody Sheldon, ClinScD., CCC-SLP, to talk about the class for her podcast, Speech Plus so much more. You can listen below. 

Join me as I speak to the hosts of The Agent Voice, for a talk on power imbalances in the therapeutic setting.

https://youtu.be/NesBSq3f0G8
  • In a repeating theme of mutual respect, Stephen King and I got together once again to talk about what it means to be an evidence based, shared decision maker in manual therapy. You can watch the talk here on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbFTnh87JxA&t=159s
  • Based on overlapping concepts and ideas, the orofacial myology and myofunctional community have been regular attendees at my live workshops. I was honored to be interviewed by Brittny Sciarra, RDH, on her Eye Spy With My Myo Eye podcast. You can watch the entire interview here.
https://youtu.be/UnfH9kT0sAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfbgPNUpoJQ
  • Crossing the Chasm, when it comes to transitioning to a new system of beliefs, seems a rite of passage for many in the therapeutic communities. The Chasm, in this case, refers to the well of uncertainty regarding how we explain our various work. In manual therapy, the Crossing often refers to moving from older, historical views of tissue-based or pathology-based explanations into updated and multifactorial explanations. My leap was gradual, and I explain how the process went in this interview. Though presented from a physical therapist’s perspective, the evolutionary process is faced by many, be they massage therapists, physical therapists, speech-language pathologists, and more. Jamie Johnston, RMT interviewed me for his MTDC Community. Give it a watch here.
https://youtu.be/tneHJZE8wrQ
https://youtu.be/LpZrvzTi2UI
  • I was there for Episode #22 of Theresa Richard’s Swallow Your Pride podcast, where I dive into dysphagia, from a manual therapy perspective, and I’m back in Episode 215, Mastering Manual Therapy. You can listen here.
https://youtu.be/Jkd8Y5mSdGE
  • Interview with Rachel Lynes, from UK-based The Sing Space, where we talk of manual therapy’s usefulness with the singer and include a bit of self-treatment. Link
  • Juliette Caton, from the UK Podcast Vocal Scope, and I spent some time speaking to the role of manual therapy and the performing voice. Link
  • On the UK-based Naked Vocalist podcast, hosted by Steve Giles and Chris Johnson, I spent some time talking about manual therapy’s purpose in voice and performance, as well as moving through some self-care routines. Link
  • I joined Rani Lill Ajum, P.hD. in philosophy at the Norwegian University of Life Sciences and Stephen King, UK-based vocal coach and vocal massage therapist, for an hour-long talk about complexity and causation in the manual therapy patient. Complexity; simplified.
  • Stephen King and I sat down to talk about skepticism, tongues, and omohyoids. Link
  • I was asked by the National Spasmodic Dysphonia (SD) Association to write an article on manual therapy’s potential use with SD. Link
  • After attending one of my Voice and Swallowing Disorders in New York City, massage therapist/educator Beret Kirkeby wrote a review of her experience. Link
  • At the request of the Association of Massage Therapists (Australia), I wrote an article on The Vocal Athlete (nods to Marci Daniels Rosenberg and Wendy Leborgne!) Link Similarly, I wrote a similar article for the Massage New Zealand Magazine titled, Myofascial Release/Massage with the Vocal Athlete. Link
  • Watch a few videos of laryngeal manual therapy being expelled externally, with FEES views internally here, here, and here.
  • Join me on the Healing Ground Podcast with Dr. Carly for our talk on Voice and Swallowing Disorders and integrating a patient-centered model into manual therapy interventions. You can catch the podcast at this link.
  • Robert Gardner II, LMT and online educator, sat down for another one of our talks. This time about the common denominators in Manual Therapies and Massage. You can catch the whole interview here.
  • Daniel Pablo Albillo, from the Australian-based Knowledge Exchange, and I talk about the biopsychosocial aspects of manual therapy. Link
https://youtu.be/423n3MK8Nx8
  • A video podcast with Matt Phillips of the UK-based Sports Therapy Association. Link
  • On their podcast Pain Reframed, Liz Peppin and Jeff Moore take me down the rabbit hole of manual therapy’s tawdry image regarding its place next to exercise in the physical therapy profession and how it has a place in today’s market. Link
  • Scott Dartnall and I sat down for a longer talk on the concept of Mastery and some of the problems with that term and concept as they apply to those using manual therapy as an intervention. Link
  • Mark, from 2 Massage Therapists and a Microphone, and I discussed all things MFR, unpacking much of the BS from the tissue-based beliefs of the MFR (and other) communities. Link
  • Haley Winter allowed me a number of podcasts on his How’s the Pressure podcast, with a longer format interview on what was, at that time, my version of MFR. You will also find my input on a variety of topics relevant to the massage and physical therapist scattered throughout a number of other interviews on his website.
  • Nick Ng, from Massage & Fitness Magazine, and I sat down after a teaching trip to Hong Kong to discuss my approach to manual therapy. Link
  • Robert Libbey, RMT, and I sat down for a talk that began with my hand (surgery) and drifted into some mutually agreeable topics on narratives and education in manual therapy. Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUyNUPhqZ0o
  • Dr. Joe Muscolino interviewed me for his website, Learn Muscles, on being an educator. Link
  • For the Massage New Zealand Magazine, I wrote a referenced article on Shared Decision-Making in the Manual Therapies. Link
  • Seeing one’s work reach those in need is rewarding. After reaching a seminar in Kansas, one of the speech-language pathologists continued working with a patient who came in to act as one of my models in the seminar. You can watch his story here.
  • While still referring to the work that I teach as MFR, I was asked to write an article for Massage Magazine on treatment to the region of the diaphragm. Link
  • As a contributor to Massage & Fitness Magazine, I wrote and article titled Finding My Voice: A Patient-Centered Perspective, Link, Say Nothing, Link, and Let Your Stories Mature and Grow, Link.
  • In an issue dedicated to research, I wrote A Deconstruction of Beliefs: A First-Person Account for the Massage New Zealand Magazine. Link

Please check back as this list grows.

There is a deep list of videos that provide the curious leaner much information on the approach used in this work. The Manual Therapy: Voice and Swallowing Disorders YouTube page is a place to start. For more general manual therapy videos, check out this page. For self-help videos suitable for sharing, click here to be taken to that YouTube page.

A podcast that I respect and recommend is Dr. Oliver Thomson’s Words Matter podcast. Covering a wide range of topics, with relevance to the PT, MT, and SLP, Dr. Thomson unpacks the factors at-play in the therapeutic relationship. He is also working his way through the CauseHealth (see below) book with the authors, with each chapter covered in separate podcasts. You can listen to Dr. Thomson’s podcast at this link.

CauseHealth is a project to address complexity in causation regarding therapeutic interactions. They’ve made their latest book, Rethinking Causality, Complexity, and Evidence for the Unique Patient available at no charge , and can be downloaded here. No matter your profession I cannot recommend a source more highly.

Cheers,

Walt Fritz, PT

Foundations in Manual Therapy Seminars and The Pain Relief Center

www.waltfritz.com

Please consider checking out my online course offerings, , including a full hands-on online course. You can find the information here. Also, read up on my in-person seminars at the links in the menu on this page.

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Getting to yes. Using negotiation in the therapeutic process

Getting to yes. Using negotiation in the therapeutic process

Getting to yes: Using negotiation in the therapeutic process.

Walt Fritz, PT
(Updated January 2024)

In this article, I want to dive deeply into the options available to the therapist, explicitly using a patient-centered, negotiation-driven model of care. A model like this becomes a therapeutic partnership, an alliance for a common goal. Contrast this model with the more common therapist-centered model, where the clinician is seen as the expert, capable of independently making decisions about diagnosis and treatment. While therapists immersed in their expertise may take umbrage to my characterizations, I ask for patience to allow this explanation to play out.

Though I was trained in the clinician-as-expert model of manual care, over the past two decades, I’ve transitioned my physical therapy practice and continuing education classes into one featuring shared decision-making (SDM), allowing negotiation throughout the treatment process. With negotiation, the application of intervention becomes balanced. Without negotiation, intervention is driven solely by the therapist’s beliefs and experience (ego), possibly missing out on an outcome that has better meaning to the patient.

“Getting to Yes,” by Roger Fisher, was a best-selling business book published in 1991. The Amazon.com summary states, “It is based on the work of the Harvard Negotiation Project, a group that deals with all levels of negotiation and conflict resolution. Getting to Yes offers a proven, step-by-step strategy for reaching mutually acceptable agreements in every sort of conflict.” I remember hearing of it earlier in my career, and the memory surfaced recently as a potential frame of reference regarding the manual therapy I currently use and teach. While the phrase, getting to yes, might be somewhat narrowly focused regarding the outcome of manual therapy, I see it as a productive and necessary step to fulfill before determining treatment. The concepts presented in “Getting to Yes” have meaning today.

Like most other intervention methods, manual therapy (MT) training has a predictable pattern, many of which I’ve witnessed since beginning my formalized MT training in 1992. Whether it be the commonly seen problems of pain or movement disorders faced by physical therapists and massage therapists or the need to reduce the severity of the impact of dysphagia, dysphonia, trismus, and the full range of other diagnoses facing the speech-language pathologist, orofacial clinicians, and others, the application, brand, or style appears to matter little. The timeline often proceeds as follows: when first exposed to a new type of intervention strategy, typically through continuing education, the clinician conservatively doses the therapy, not quite sure of its value or their level of skill. With experience, the therapist uses the modality with greater comfort. With apparent positive results, additional training will often be pursued or encouraged. An illusion is usually formed, where the clinician believes that as their expertise and knowledge improve, their ability to determine the cause of a problem and the correct technique is also enhanced. With that confidence often comes the belief that they can better determine what is wrong with the patient and know how to remediate the issue. Such confidence allows the clinician to feel prepared to help another person through a process that the person knows little about. However, might acting with such certainty minimize the patient’s perspective, values, and preferences, perspectives that can both help and hinder a process?

No matter our profession, we are seen as experts in our respective fields, well-prepared to understand the deeper issues underlying a disorder and know which intervention to apply to remedy that problem. This reasoning seems standard practice in most healthcare and typically meets with success. However, are there ways to improve outcomes? Are there ways to enhance patient buy-in? Are there ways to better honor the three aspects of the evidence-based practice model (EBP)?

I ask readers to keep in mind the three equal elements of EBP:

  1. The published evidence,
  2. Clinician’s experience applying the evidence, and
  3. Patient perspectives and preferences concerning the evidence and the clinician’s perspectives.

Those three legs are taught in most health-related curriculums and were established to improve the quality of interventions. However, of those three inclusions, I believe that patient perspectives and preferences are given far too little emphasis and respect across the broad spectrum of healthcare. Recent trends in narrative medicine and other more patient-centric approaches are beginning to create change, but manual therapy models seem to have lagged behind others. I propose a method and model that contrasts sharply with traditional MT clinician-as-expert training approaches (where the therapist is seen as capable of making treatment decisions on the patient’s behalf). I propose elevating patient perspectives and preferences to carry equal weight with the evidence and the clinician’s experience applying said evidence. Some call this approach a shared decision-making (SDM) model, a moniker I use throughout my writing and coursework.

I’ve been exposed to many learning models in my years of learning and applying MT. Being encouraged to pursue additional coursework was a given, actively encouraged, and sometimes required. Early on (myofascial release and craniosacral training), working intuitively was highly stressed, though ill-defined. I was invited to develop my intuition to work toward having a deeper understanding of processes that, in essence, allowed me to see inside another person. I was taught to determine what was wrong with my patients through various means by merely looking at them. These skills involved conventional evaluation methods, such as postural assessment and movement observance. I noted postural deviations from an idealized norm and observed movements that deviated from similar idealized perspectives. I was taught how to interpret those findings based on the model being introduced. Postural deviations were seen as problematic due to explanations steeped in physicals and biomechanics: if the machine is not well-aligned, it is bound to fail. We were taught to align the body for optimal performance. These are not uncommon perspectives and continue to be presented in current educational models. But the human body and condition are not machines. It is complex and unique, capable of adapting to stressors and conditions that appear to belie traditional mechanistic models of explanation.

I was also encouraged to “read” the body, seeing patterns, colors, and holding patterns that would lead me to know what treatment needed to be done. Suppose all of this sounds far-fetched; welcome to the world of pseudoscience. To many, these concepts make sense but are often mere logical fallacies. Using the taught approach seemed to result in positive outcomes, and armed with such power, why would I have stopped believing in the basic tenets of that myofascial release approach I had learned?

The clinician determines if their preferred treatment style might be helpful in the typical MT intervention. That exercise alone is biased, especially if, in the eyes of the therapist, manual therapy is one of their go-to tools. I recognize this bias as my own, though I try to see through it. Myofascial release had been my bias, tool, and belief for at least twenty years. People come to me daily in pain or living with dysfunction, and I apply my biases toward their issues. Over the years of using MFR, I saw the trend I sank into, objectifying their condition as a simple set of fascial restrictions set in place from injury, trauma, surgery, or other conditions, conditions that my skillset was especially good at remediating. Every patient became the nail, well-suited for my hammer. My biases were reinforced by success with many of the patients who sought me out. If the theories behind my fascial training were correct, then my interventions should be helpful, which they were. No dilemma existed, even though many outside my MFR tribe saw significant problems with the explanatory narrative utilized in MFR and many other modalities targeting tissues and pathologies.

This dilemma seems nebulous and meaningless to the uninitiated, those new to manual therapy. But the dilemma is real to those who’ve spent time exploring the various modality rabbit holes. How can so many modalities have the answer? Can each tissue/pathology-based manual therapy model truly singularly and selectively access and successfully intervene in that dysfunction? Can there be so many unique tissue-based problems in the body that lie in wait for the therapist specially trained in a model devoted solely to that problem? Is it a “myofascial restriction” that is remediated by an MFR therapist? Is the trigger point therapist remediating that trigger point, or are they applying a work that patients benefit from, no matter the mechanism of action? Is the gentle, affective touch used by the craniosacral therapist really balancing the body’s craniosacral rhythm and movement of spinal fluid, or is their light touch impacting autonomic centers, capable of introducing the same changes the CST clinician believes are due to other pathologies? These questions are often seen as heretical by devotees of tissue and pathology-based manual therapy modality families as they question the fundamental underpinnings taught. Such talk is often squelched. However, these are conversations that need to occur.

Manual therapy is often helpful for many disorders, whether in the niche of voice and swallowing or the larger body of conditions impacting human existence. But does MT work in the manner described by its followers? Diving deeply into the evidence pulls out a relative lack of irrefutable proof of both the tissue-based dysfunctions that are responsible for the disorders we treat and our ability to impact those tissues for intervention selectively. Such omissions are lacking in nearly all the published scientific literature that studies the efficacy of manual therapy, though many readers of the evidence fail to see the problem. In most manual therapy papers, there is a conflation of the mechanism of action and efficacy (or positive outcomes). Proving efficacy is often allowed to be sufficient proof of the stated mechanism of action. The complexity of the human condition is seldom reducible to problems in one tissue or region, be it muscle, fascia, tongue ties, postural deviation, flexibility, or strength, especially when viewed through the lens of biopsychosocial understanding.

Despite enormous progress in scientific understanding of pathologies and models of care, we are still not at a place of complete understanding. Instead of choosing a tissue or pathology-based model of manual therapy, I’ve modified my process to allow the patient to be the focus of care. This shift represents a movement towards patient empowerment rather than my skill and beliefs being the centerpiece. While I fully admit I cannot abandon my knowledge, training, and past experiences (ego/bias) entirely, I attempt to temper such factors by fostering a relationship where my patient plays a more active role in determining treatment. In my classes, I speak to this as a point of distinction between other modalities and perspectives. In many trainings, whether it is a model teaching manual circumlaryngeal treatment (MCT) or more broadly applied myofascial release and manual therapy, the clinician is tasked with locating the problem, often based on palpation. The clinician’s training strongly biases this palpation. While one therapist trained in MCT, for instance, may feel excessive muscle tension, another clinician trained in myofascial release may feel fascial restrictions. It is quite possible that what they think through this palpation is the same “thing.” Such conflicts are seldom spoken of across MT circles, as each prefers to stay within their tribal narratives.

In my view, the historical “clinician-as-expert” model lacks one major component; no matter how much I know how much training I’ve had, I cannot determine what a patient is feeling. I cannot palpate what a patient feels might be helpful or harmful. I cannot palpate or evaluate a patient’s expectations, preferences, and perspectives. Working in a one-way fashion, where the clinician is tasked with determining what is best for another human being, allows only one person’s voice to be heard.

So, how can one overcome these obstacles? How does using a patient-centered model that instills ownership of the patient’s perspective and preferences matter within the uncertainty mentioned above? I believe that it matters because of the uncertainty. We cannot be sure if our tissue-based beliefs are accurate, which is a troubling concept. Sure, many outcome-based studies point to positive outcomes when a model of care is applied. But none of those studies dives deeply into understanding the complete mechanisms of action that touch and MT play. Lacking a comprehensive mechanism of action for the results of our work requires us to exist in an uncertain world. However, there is hope.

Those who inform my views are researchers such as Bialosky (2028), Geri (2020), Kolb (2020), Roy (2019), and Weppler (2010), who, through various perspectives, point to higher levels of influence and control in terms of why changes might be elicited at the periphery. They are not negating the possibility of what we’ve learned about local effect manual therapy models but instead point to other influences and factors that drive change. The tapestry we work with (and from) is a rich one.

I continue to use palpation in my intervention and teach it during each of my seminars. But instead of palpating to locate the cause or actual location of a condition, like most other manual therapy models, I use palpation to begin a communication process with my patient. In older models, palpation leads to the conclusion, “I’ve found your (muscle tension, fascial restriction, trigger point, etc.); let’s see what we can do about this.” Treatment typically follows the findings of palpation. I propose a model that uses that same palpation. However, palpation is used to begin a conversation with my patient. “This area seems tight; does this feel familiar to you?” From this point, SDM starts.

In MFR, my evaluation findings led me to know what needed to be done. I was a fascial expert, a trait few of my patients shared (or even understood). My treatment suggestions may have seemed foreign to most patients, but my reputation and the hope that I would help allowed them to trust me. I cannot discard all my experience, but the more I learn, the more I mistrust my instincts. I’ve learned to trust my patients more and work to temper my beliefs with the knowledge that I do not know what my patients are feeling, what they hope for, and what they might fear unless I ask. I have no way of truly knowing if they will ask me to move into their pain or dysfunctional feelings or lighten up my touch and pressure into a feeling they identify as helpful unless I ask. I have no way of knowing what sort of pressure/pain tolerance they might have unless I ask. I have no way of knowing if the things I’ve located through palpation or other evaluation could be significant, beneficial, or harmful unless I ask. Despite all my training and experience, I can never know the answers to these and countless other questions unless I ask. But most manual therapy training is built on a process that doesn’t ask; the patient’s input is often minimized or at least deferred to the therapist’s clinical expertise. Usually, this all works well in the end, but are there ways to improve this process?

Coupling our expertise and training with the expectations and perspectives of the patient is the crux of my approach. It is what gets us to yes. “Yes, that feels helpful,” or “Yes, I think this might be useful.” Getting to yes brings the therapeutic process into a partnership, an alliance. Of course, we can’t just ask our patients what they think is wrong with them, ask them what we should do, and then do it…or can’t we?

I recently listened to a podcast from a few well-regarding physical therapists who were speaking about shared decision-making and patient-centered care. With a note of sarcasm, when talking about patients not knowing the nitty-gritty of physical therapy, one quipped, “Well, it’s not like we can ask our patients to choose what exercises they wish to do.” This remark provided a laugh to the other expert PT. In their world, expertise drives interventions, despite many studies published over the past ten years showing that the specificity of exercise interventions matters less than once thought. Exercise is helpful, but few physical therapists know why (Powell, 2022). Rather than choosing the correct intervention, some authors have linked the alliance built between patient and provider as one of the more significant influencers of change (Alodaibi 2021). Manual therapy studies have shown similar issues. For instance, the specificity of MT for laryngeal dysfunction was seen to be unnecessary when compared to more global MT treatment Ternström et al. (2000). Manual therapy intervention is complex, so far as mechanisms at play and quickly move into behavioral aspects of the therapeutic relationship, patient expectations and fears, and many more concepts that remain in the shadows. Our educational and continuing education poorly prepared us for these uncertainties.

The way I teach my work is to use palpation as a place to begin a meaningful conversation about what brought them (the patient) into my clinic. As soon as I feel something that, from my past, feels interesting, I see if I am getting my patient’s attention. I immediately try to ascertain if they are feeling something familiar, something they’ve felt before, or associated with the condition or issues that brought them to see me. I put them to work in ways many have never experienced. In essence, I force them to help me help them. I work toward finding a tactile cue that connects with a feeling they’ve felt before, good or bad, and is somehow relevant to them. I do very little selling of an approach or beliefs. If what I’m palpating does not replicate one of these conditions, I move on. If it does connect with their experience, I ask them if the stretch that I am performing feels like it might be helpful. If so, I ask them if they want me to hold the stretch for a while to see if we can change the outcome. If there is anything about my palpation-found stretch that feels like it may not be helpful, I will ask them if it feels like it might be harmful. If so, I immediately stop without any form of coercion. I am attempting to get to yes with them, to find a pressure, stretch, or engagement that they feel will be useful and helpful. I let them decide what constitutes a yes, not me. I allow them to decide what level of pressure or engagement is too much or ineffectual. Many will defer to me; “do what you think is best; I can take it.” With such responses, I will work to allow them to see their place in this therapy. If a more painful treatment I desired, it should come from them and not from me. I let them know that while many believe it must hurt to help, others feel quite differently and that the research doesn’t support that view. But if their lived experience wishes deeper, more painful intervention, I will work with them to meet their needs and desires. If they prefer lighter pressures, I need to assure them they are not sabotaging their process. I require them to participate fully in the therapeutic process and put them in a position of responsibility for helping me help them. Getting to yes, to me, forms a crucial tipping point in the process that moves us from evaluation to treatment.

Have you ever heard of a patient/client leaving a massage session, for instance, saying something like, “That therapist was so good that they were able to find things I didn’t even know that I had!” I have, and I detest, such statements only because the therapist possibly did a somewhat unethical job of selling pathologies to a vulnerable public. Nothing I find is meaningful unless confirmed by my patient. All of this is hard work, though I consider it good work.

Getting to yes. That is my mandate.

Walt Fritz, PT
Foundations in Manual Therapy Seminars
www.WaltFritz.com

Alodaibi, F., Beneciuk, J., Holmes, R., Kareha, S., Hayes, D., & Fritz, J. (2021). The Relationship of the Therapeutic Alliance to Patient Characteristics and Functional Outcome During an Episode of Physical Therapy Care for Patients With Low Back Pain: An Observational Study. Physical therapy, 101(4), pzab026. https://doi.org/10.1093/ptj/pzab026

Bialosky, J. E., Beneciuk, J. M., Bishop, M. D., Coronado, R. A., Penza, C. W., Simon, C. B., & George, S. Z. (2018). Unraveling the Mechanisms of Manual Therapy: Modeling an Approach. The Journal of orthopaedic and sports physical therapy, 48(1), 8–18. https://doi.org/10.2519/jospt.2018.7476

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Powell, J. K., Schram, B., Lewis, J., & Hing, W. (2023). Physiotherapists nearly always prescribe exercise for rotator cuff-related shoulder pain; but why? A cross-sectional international survey of physiotherapists. Musculoskeletal care, 21(1), 253–263. https://doi.org/10.1002/msc.1699

Roy, N., Dietrich, M., Blomgren, M., Heller, A., Houtz, D. R., & Lee, J. (2019). Exploring the Neural Bases of Primary Muscle Tension Dysphonia: A Case Study Using Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging. Journal of voice: official journal of the Voice Foundation, 33(2), 183–194. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jvoice.2017.11.009

Ternström, S., Andersson, M., & Bergman, U. (2000). An effect of body massage on voice loudness and phonation frequency in reading. Logopedics, phoniatrics, vocology, 25(4), 146–150. https://doi.org/10.1080/140154300750067520

Weppler, C. H., & Magnusson, S. P. (2010). Increasing muscle extensibility: a matter of increasing length or modifying sensation?. Physical therapy, 90(3), 438–449. https://doi.org/10.2522/ptj.20090012

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  1. For example I find the palpation that indicates it may be connected to the issue and the client agrees. I ask the client to move. [step forward with one foot] If they ask which one, I say I don’t know. Only their brain knows which movement is the safest. After spending some time evaluating that move and position, whether it is involved in the complaint, makes things better or worse; can we cautiously try the opposite move to see if that leads to more discovery.

    • Hi Hans, I marvel at the way we come up with ways to engage our patients in meaningful action. I am even more appreciative of models that minimize the concept of nocebo introduction (pathologizing), based on the tissue-based narratives most were taught. Bravo for your approach!

21 Questions: Manual Therapy for Voice and Swallowing Disorders – A YouTube Playlist

21 Questions: Manual Therapy for Voice and Swallowing Disorders

July 2023: While this post is dated regarding the title of my work (I evolved away from “Myofascial release/MFR” and into “manual therapy” due to issues of credibility), the content remains quite relevant. The playlist has expanded well beyond the original 21 videos to give the viewer a deeper understanding on the ins and outs of manual care for voice, swallowing, and related disorders. You can view the entire series of videos at this link

I was recently in the UK to take a seminar and stopped by the Vocal Massage practice of Stephen King in Covent Gardens, London for some filming. In advance of this July’s MFR for Neck, Voice, and Swallowing Disorders that I will be presenting in Birmingham, England, and Dundee, Scotland, I was sent a list of questions by one of my UK hosts, SVS Associates, to introduce my work to the UK speech pathologist and voice communities. What unfolded was a rather free-form interview, captured in 21 separate videos, plus one longer format video that shows my style of interview, evaluation, and intervention with a vocal performer. He also allows us to hear him, both pre- and post-treatment.

You can watch the first Question and view the demonstration video below. If you have questions, please post them as comments here on the blog and I will respond. The entire playlist may be accessed via this link: 21 Questions


For now,

Walt Fritz, PT

Foundations in Myofascial Release Seminars

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Are you qualified to do “emotional work”?

I am going to keep this post short and simple, with a followup blog in the near future.

How many therapists (PTs, MTs, OTs, SLPs, etc.) feel they have the training and legal ability, through their professional scope of practice/practice act, to deal with the emotional aspects of their patient’s pain/dysfunction? To define my term “deal with”, I am speaking of moving past a sense of supporting a patient/client when their emotional past or present comes to the surface. I am speaking of purposefully using methods you learned in your schooling or post-schooling to encourage, facilitate, or even provoke emotional release.

I do realize there is a HUGE amount of wiggle room here, as most who were taught emotional work/emotional release (myself included) were told that we never lead, only follow. But in hindsight, revisiting my learning experiences, I can now see there was much more happening than just following my patient’s lead. I believe that the mere suggestion to a patient that they may experience an emotional awareness/release/experience is enough to set forth an an expectation, or even possibly an agenda. Having an expectation for emotional release or seeing my patient begin to emote and acting in a way to encourage them to dive into this emotion exceed my scope of practice. Perhaps even using manual techniques that foster or aim to provoke an emotional reaction is beyond my scope of practice.

Why am I asking this question? It is not fear-based, as some may portray this, but out of concern. I am concerned that therapists who are ill-trained for dealing with true emotional/psychological problems can easily get in over their head. There are reasons why mental health therapists are required to have a minimum of a Master’s degree, with many at the PhD level, to practice mental health therapy and counseling.

I hadn’t looked at mine in a long time. You can look at it here: The Model Practice Act for Physical Therapy

If my scope of practice makes no mention of something, I am not legally allowed to practice it. My physical therapy scope of practice/practice act makes no mention of emotional work or emotions in general.

Does your scope of practice allow you to do “emotional work”? How fuzzy is the line defining ’emotional work’?”

Are you qualified to do “emotional work”?

For now,

Walt Fritz, PT

Foundations in Myofascial Release Seminars

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20 Responses to Are you qualified to do “emotional work”?

  1. Perhaps we should refer them to Hazelden rehab so they can be loaded with psychotropic drugs and live life as an illusion or worse act on one of the side effects, suicidal thoughts. I wonder what Robin Williams’ family is thinking?

    • Those statements make no sense, Bob, Hazelden is a drug/alcohol rehab center where people go to get clean. And, do you think Robin William’s family is paying attention to this conversation? Whether or not certain mental health professionals are qualified or not has nothing to do with manual therapists acting beyond their scope of practice. One does not justify the other.

  2. Trying to ‘evoke’ an emotional response is out of the scope of practice of psychologists too. A massage therapist trying to ‘evoke’ an emotional response is not only out of scope, but unprofessional.

    Emotional release just happens during massage. Yes I do think it is true that saying it will happen also sets a person up. I have also had others come in under tremendous stress and grief saying that they expect an emotional release to happen but it usually doesn’t. I have also had clients say they went to other practitioners and were warned that there could be an emotional release and they didn’t want to continue with that person as what they were coming for was massage – not emotional work.

    The only thing we can do is just be there for them and allow them to process what they need and that shows them that they can handle their emotions.

    • I have patients come to me after visiting other therapists in town who stopped working with them, saying it seemed that all they were concerned about was the emotional release and that they kept saying that if one does not release the emotions, the pain will never go away. Sad.

      • Does your scope of practice allow you to do “emotional work”? As a massage therapist in Illinois, NO.

        How fuzzy is the line defining ‘emotional work’?” No fuzzy line at all in our MT scope of practice in Illinois. We are only legally able to provide massage therapy for the purpose of general health and well being.

        That said, if someone feels better emotionally after a massage, that’s fine. If clients cry during my massage, then I am likely not doing a good job of massaging them! If they cry because they feel comfortable telling me about a fight they had with their sig other, that’s not an emotional release, that is one person sharing their feelings with another they feel safe with. (They may also share these feelings with a friend, a hairdresser or a bartender. But perhaps not with tears if others were around.)

        However, if someone in Illinois has any of the non-licensed certifications (Ortho-bionamy, Reiki, etc.) then they can pretty much do what they want, claim what they want and advertise what they want…because our license act was specifically written to exclude those certifications. From what I understand, at the time the Illinois MT license Act was being written, those with a stake in non-massage bodywork were powerful enough to keep their bodywork modalities out of the MT practice act. So in this way, MTs are severely restricted, but if you get a non-MT bodywork modality certification that is specifically exempt in our MT Practice Act, you can be as fuzzy, as emotional-inducing as you like…as long as you do not infringe on another scope of practice such as licensed professional counselor, psychologist, etc.

        I had had some “treatments” from bodyworkers who believe their work should include emotional releases and, as a client, I felt an intense pressure to cry, emote, have some sort of emotional catharsis whether I needed it and wanted it or not. Which as a client was invasive and creepy. When I have experienced this type of bodywork, I don’t go back and I don’t refer to this person. Over time I have learned to read the people that have this approach and don’t seek it out. In my book, it is evidence of poor boundaries by the bodyworker.

        Are you qualified to do “emotional work”? Actually, I am NEARLY qualified to do “emotional work.” I recently graduated with a masters degree in clinical psychology and once, I pass my national boards and obtain my actual LPC (Licensed professional counselor), then yes, at that point, I will be legally qualified to do emotional work. Would I do it in my massage practice though? NO.

        From what I have studied about psychology and counseling, the idea of emotional release is more popular among those who study Gestalt and who are psychodynamically-oriented. CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) is becoming the main evidence-based approach used in counseling and CBT involves cognitive processes moreso than emotional release. Emotions may be experienced and discussed, but getting someone to emote is not the goal.

        Research has shown that emotional catharsis is not only not sufficient for people to heal and adopt healthier behaviors, it can also be tramatizing. This link below is to an article explaining the concept of catharsis and includes much of the psych research notations that are useful in this discussion, including a decent explanation of the difference between psychological catharsis and emotional release. Link here: http://primal-page.com/cathar.htm

        • I am grateful for you taking the time to share, Sue.

          “I will be legally qualified to do emotional work. Would I do it in my massage practice though? NO.”

          If I could add one of those smiley faces here, I would.

          Walt

  3. A BIG NO. WE ARE NOT TRAINED. We could cause harm and further distress and also are not trained to observe if someone has a more serious psychosis of some type.

    In Jin Shin Jyutsu, each depth has an “attitude” when it is out of harmony/balance. For example Fear is 4th depth, Kidney and Bladder etc. “Attitudes” of not in balance, (worry, fear, anger, sadness, trying too/pretense) are also connected with the meridians in acupuncture, and also in Shiatsu. All NYS LMTs are required to study Shiatsu, as there are questions on the state boards regarding such. BUT these attitudes of not being in balance are only an indication/clue of the imbalance (not balanced) of that depth and part of the puzzle in figuring out how to help the person. What in Jin Shin Jyutsu is called the order of the disorder. But this is different than observing and addressing the WHY of the clients “fear” in a psychoanalytical mode.
    The depths all have an effect on each other. In JSJ we call it burdeners, supporters, energizers. So if someone is a worrier for example, it could be the result of the fourth depth (fear) not energizing the 1st depth (worry). Often if the 2nd depth (lung, Large Intestine–sadness) is out of harmony it can burden third depth (Liver/ Gall Bladder–anger). This is in interesting if you think about the grief process. In Shiatsu, and acupuncture the understanding of how the meridians affect each other, the charts are slightly different than in JSJ.

  4. Once I get my degree in psychology I am within a licensed capacity to address these issues. As an MT…not at all. Should any SOP Act mention emotional work I imagine it would be challenged by local Psychiatry and Psychology Boards.

    As an Ashtanga teacher we do discuss the emotions and mental states of the body, but only as a philosophical discussion within the yogic framework and never as part of any kind of therapy. Those who do I would believe are ethically guilty of practicing psychology/psychiatry without a license. This very topic came up in my Psy class two days ago, as the doctor sought to phrase “Yoga teachers who think they know what they are doing” politely as not to insult me (I quickly assured her my agreement).

  5. Emotional releases happen in many ways during body work. Sometimes it is a release of heat, a softening off the tissue a deep, cleansing breath or a flood of tears. If the release is deeper or more traumatic then the client should be referred to a mental health practioner. I am a CranioSacral therapist and have a degree in psychology, so I may be trained a little more with dialoguing with the client through a release of trauma. There is specific training through the Upledger Institute called SomatoEmotional Release that is specifically for helping the client work through “energy cysts” in the body that were formed through some kind of trauma. So, it really depends on the therapist’s training and the client’s trust and willingness.

    • Thanks, Trisha. Training through an established school/facility, such as the Upledger Program prepares a therapist for this work, and I respect programs such as these. But, does that make an MT/PT/OT qualified, or legally able, to do this work? There may be no perfect consensus in answering this question, as people interpret their scopes of practice in many different ways.

  6. No, I am not qualified, trained nor pretend to have an understanding of the psychological effects of the work that I do. In the ten years that I have seen clients and patients, I have experienced quite a few that have exhibited one form or another of an emotional release. There has never been a spoken word exchanged when confronted with a client/patient. My training explicitly instructed me to remain still and let the emotion take its course. As Trisha noted, the client’s trust is at stake here; to involve yourself in an area we are not trained/certified/credentialed is unethical.

  7. LMT & Upledegder trained, my thought is yes if my training qualifies me to do SamtoEmotional release then Iam leagally allowed to do emotional work and to advise clients that it is a possablity for emotions to be release. Now that being said it’s much more facilitation then interaction with the process. It is important that I do not give opinions or direction on moving forward and just allow the unwinding. Tears, stories, laughter ect. are very therapeutic responces and are normal. I’m also quick to refer to Talk therapies for clients requesting emotional work, in NY those types of therapies are Hands off so working in tandem has a maximum benefit to the client.

    • Hi Patrick, At times I work in tandem with a licensed mental health therapist and it is quite powerful. Touch can be a great facilitator. I am curious, though, if training in this constitutes legal ability/permission under your practice act?

  8. You can’t put your hands on someone withing evoking an emotional component. The cart is dragged along by the horse.

    Each of the zillion therapeutic approaches has its own ‘belief system’. Being well trained and deeply experienced is how we come to be ‘expert’ at any one system. Becoming expert at one system does not make you an expert in another, even if similar.

    Technically, trying to wander into a theoretical realm you have not been trained in takes you outside your scope of practice, and so not having trained in psychology or at least some kind of accredidation with talk therapy certainly would exceed most PT or MT training and thus scope of practice.

    Being present during any kind of catalyzed emotional component and allowing it to move through seems essential, but that doesn’t mean you start asking how your client feels about that. This is the realm of talk therapy and is an integration of analytical mind and emotions all mixed together.

    Conversely, a talk therapist is not trained to perform manual therapy and would be equally outside their scope of practice working with soft tissue. Nonetheless, their therapy would have physical results as well. That doesn’t mean they have crossed boundaries.

    Stick to what you’re good at, leave the rest to others.

  9. I do not feel that my LMT license, or even my NCMMT certification gives me the tools or qualifications to help someone though an emotional release if they have one. But due to the nature of this work, and the fact that I am treating many people who have been injured in auto accidents or other traumatic ways, they do sometimes show up. Not having the time or financial resources to get a degree in psychology or psychiatry, but wanting to not feel completely out of my depth when they do, I decided to study clinical hypnotherapy and EFT. I am now certified in both, and advertise neither. But when emotional issues do come up, (and I do not set it up that way by telling my patients that it might happen) I feel that I at least have some tools to hold the space for them to process it themselves.

    • It is wonderful you dove deeper for the extra training.

      I will ask again to you, as I did previously, if training in this constitutes legal ability/permission under your practice act? I do not know the answer myself.

  10. new website coming.

    Seems like most of us are on the page to allow and not guide. I do believe the legal line is fuzzy. Listening is not TALK therapy. Telling someone to expect an emotional release seems like it would cause tension, but to let them know that tissue does hold memories and give them permission to feel whatever they feel… is NOT emotional therapy. Just permission. ( and they do not have to share the memory or the feeling, they can just FEEL and hopefully release) but how do I know if they released it??? I don’t. I just allow the process to carry on and continue the work that I know how to do. As I teach movement as well, there are times that certain work (psoas for instance) can bring all kinds of reactions. Again, let it happen instead of directing or making suggestions.
    So, do we do emotional work? Can it be separated?
    I think we just have to keep our own opinions out of it and not counsel. If they need counseling send them out or if you are educated in that, then make a separate appointment. Just giving the body time to do its own work in a body “work” appointment might be just what they need.
    That’s my 2 cents.
    Best to you all, everyone is giving something through the passion of their work.

    • Hi ZoyaMarie, I agree with so much of what you’ve said here. I will take issue with a commonly spread misconception. It is a wonderful thought that the tissues hold memories/feelings, but this is not accurate. No doubt, when we work with people they often experience emotional responses, but this is a far cry from saying the emotions lie in the fascia/muscle. This myth is perpetuated by many, but memory/emotions are a process of the nervous system. Saying that does not impinge upon our effect, it is just more accurate.

      • I realize this is a very contentious topic and many have differing views. I believe we all come in to this work (manual therapies) with noble intentions and if we have taken classes in emotional work, see ourselves as that passive listener. Most times there is no one looking over our shoulders assuring any rigid laws, boundaries, and rules; we just behave. But slipping past a passive listener role into emotional trauma work is such an easy step for many. If we see it demonstrated in class we see how easy it appears and how apparently beneficial it is for the client. When a client presents an opening as we saw demonstrated in class, it is just way too easy to give it a try. What is the harm, right? Despite what you have been told, there are risks, both to the client, who is being treated by someone who has little real training in mental health, as well as for the therapist, who risks loss of career and worse.

        While writing this post I came upon an 11 year old article written by Ben Benjamin and Cherie Sohnen-Moe which I believe puts much of this into perspective: The Ethics of Touch, Part 3

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